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transferring troops
February 7, 2010 - 1:02pm — Generalleutnant...
I was reading through the rules regarding transfers and was wondering how difficult it would be to allow countries from one nation to transfer troops to another.
For instance, if a brigade of an allied country was in one of your own cities, it would be nice to be able to transfer money to the ally in exchange for the brigade. That would give your ally additional money while you wouldn't have to wait several turns to raise a unit of your own. Perhaps it would be the equivalent of disbanding a unit for the ally (without the penalty) and the new unit would be raised by the next turn.
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transferring troops
I would imagine that if troops were transferred from one nation to another that said troops are then completely under the control of the nation so benefited. Otherwise they would have an ally status.
In such cases, would the quality of the units so transferred suffer or alter? It would seem nonsensical for anything like this to happen on a large scale. Thus what would the practical limits be with regard to transferring units to another state?
In another similar but non related issue. That of citizens of neutral states becoming involved in a war as mercenaries. Is there any system in place to allow said mercenary the ability to see meaningful maps without creating fully a double persona? Would it be feasible that nations have a limited number of 'mercenary' slots that can be occupied for some campaigns by one mercenary and other campaigns by another or empty depending upon circumstances? The filling of such a slot could be reported in an appropriate location of NWOL news.
Robert
unit transfer
I don't think it would happen on a large scale but I can envision certain cases where it could happen. For example, a Frag German state is allied with a major who is involved in a distant war. The Frag troops march all the way to the front, take part in the war, and win. Rather than spend the expenses of marching the units home, the Frag country sells/gives the units to the major in exchange for money. They would then just raise new units at home. A second scenario would be more like the mercenary issue you describe.
A neutral country is adjacent to another who is suddenly attacked. The defending country has plenty of money but not enough troops and would pay the neutral country for the troops.
I don't know if the quality of the unit would change but I think it would make sense that the size might drop. Some of the soldiers in the brigade may have no desire to fight for the new country. I think in either case, the unit being transfered becomes completely part of the "purchasing" country's military and would receive a new unit designation. The unit is not on loan but will be part of the new nation's military indefinately, until destroyed or disbanded. This would be the equivalent of the Swiss units in the service of France and Spain, or the Polish units in the service of France, Prussia, Austrian, and Russia.
Graf Ferdinand von Funck
Adjutant General to Elector of Sachsen,
Generalleutnant (Sachsen), Generalmajor (Österreich),
Knight of St George, Order of the Iron Crown,
Knight Companion of the Order of the Teutonic Knights (Reformed).
unit Transfer- another thought
This would be the equivalent of the Swiss units in the service of France and Spain, or the Polish units in the service of France, Prussia, Austrian, and Russia.
Yes, units like this saw service in various armies. Question? How do they keep their ranks up to strength? After all a Swiss unit in French service could not fill out their ranks with French recruits from Marseilles. No?
Robert
replacement troops for foreign units
Actually, I think that is exactly what happened. It is my understanding that by the end of the Napoleonic Wars, very few of the troopers serving with the Mamaluke squadron were from Northern Africa and I believe that a large portion of the Polish Lancers in the 1815 campaign were not Polish at all.
I think this subject may be mentioned in "Swords around the throne" so I'll do some reading to see if I can find other examples. I know in the Thirty Years War, units raised as mercenaries in foreign countries were often vastly different a few years later as replacements were rounded up in Poland and the German States.
Graf Ferdinand von Funck
Adjutant General to Elector of Sachsen,
Generalleutnant (Sachsen), Generalmajor (Österreich),
Knight of St George, Order of the Iron Crown,
Knight Companion of the Order of the Teutonic Knights (Reformed).